If you’ve ever wondered how the stars get their start in media, this is the podcast episode to listen to.

For this episode, I recruited my friend Hillary Kline from Minneapolis. She’s a full blown media personality that even auditioned at E! News recently. As I grow my following, I knew there would be a lot to learn from her, and I thought my followers would appreciate hearing about her glow up too.

This is us talking about media, content creation, working with brands, and the holidays.

For more on Hillary, visit her on Instagram (@klinetothetop) and at her website. She’s even a member of #TeamTorrid this season!